9h30 vendredi le 14 mars 2008 || rm103 Boris Dornbusch and Daniel Webby || I always say the contrary to what you say I always say the same as you


Collaboration
Starting point - Casten Holler video of twins saying "I always say the contrary to what you say" or "I always say the same as you" to each other.|| the visual starting point: the basketball court at the back of the mt st studio (Boris) || National sport of Croatia, and the loop/basketball has the same colours as the Croatian national colour. (interesting additional information) --> does it change the way we view/experience this work?

what's the relationship between Boris' and Daniel's work:
does it matter which is whose? || inside/outside || viewing out/ breaking in || the basketball as the detergent (??) || picture/painting: can be viewed as still image(s) and may have more room for narratives to come in || failure || what's the dialogue? || difference between artist-run spaces and dealer galleries? what's the subject? || medium of video? time, expression of time? || artists - critics - collectors, etc. || experience v.s. documentation

Do I understand any of the written text? How do the experiences differ between the 2 (or 1?) work? || the failed [dead] suicide bomber basketball in the end room looks as if was set up to tell a sad story, does the message on the phone says "mission accomplished" or "that's it, nothing more".. is the phone necessary if it was only tied to the ball for the recoding purpose? I don't think the phone took part in the process - the phone was not attached when the ball broke in the window; i even suspect if it was the very ball that did the breaking.. not convinced but a good story told. yea? like my first reaction to the collision of the twin towers: nah, it can't be true. pop a song in your head n have it repeat a 1000 times, you'd gradually grow to like it. tell the same story 100 times, no matter how unbelievable it is, people accept it being 'true'.. and vise-versa. || how we generate/pass on information in relation to the critical mass is h*ll-yeah a mass. || The video work gives a quite romantic feel, a lot softer than the real objects and it seems more open-ended.. i personally enjoy the repetitive action of shooting the ball into the loop, and since we don't see the people doing it, the basketball stand becomes a symbolised object.. like a goal... or... don't know, somehow your attention is fixed in the double frames against the grey background. camera angle looking down but projection level forced [me] looking up... seems educative. therefore we had a 2-hour session on it but nah, i said nothing.